Well Penguin, I have to agree with you, Vance won that debate.
I'm certain Harris will win the popular vote by huge numbers, but Trump has a better of winning the electoral college. The only thing that will stop Trump is one or two red states flipping to Harris, which I happen to think is likely.
I'm thinking of the north-south border states, where Republicans have a plurality - not a majority. I'm also thinking about the red rural states where women are a whole lot more independent minded than those in red urban states.
I could be wrong, but you can barely find a Trump sign anywhere I've been in Kentucky. We drove 4 hours the other day and didn't see one Trump sign. 4 years ago all these rural roads were lined with Trump signs. Again, I think the reason is women. Heck, three homes in my little community took put up their Trump flags and signs, then took them right down. The ladies at our little store said, the wives made their husbands take those Trump signs down.
Even Tennessee has been in constant political turmoil and activists have filled the legislative chambers rather often. Way, way, way too many women were arrested to think that will be forgotten.
Native Americans in all of these states are more vocal than ever.
Turn-out decides our presidential elections. I think this election will surprise everyone.